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	<link>http://reverendmother.org/2007-08-24/important-alert</link>
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		<title>By: Susie</title>
		<link>http://reverendmother.org/2007-08-24/important-alert#comment-26534</link>
		<author>Susie</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 03:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://reverendmother.org/2007-08-24/important-alert#comment-26534</guid>
		<description>Wow. This makes me ill. I saw a glimpse of this discussion on CNN yesterday, but didn't understand that it was a TV SHOW. Ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. This makes me ill. I saw a glimpse of this discussion on CNN yesterday, but didn&#8217;t understand that it was a TV SHOW. Ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: rivkah</title>
		<link>http://reverendmother.org/2007-08-24/important-alert#comment-26390</link>
		<author>rivkah</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://reverendmother.org/2007-08-24/important-alert#comment-26390</guid>
		<description>Is there any way that truency can go after all those horrible parents for keeping their kids out of school for 6 weeks? There has to be some sort of way to let these parents know that what they did was irresponsible and not worth risking the health and safety of their kids-even for $5000!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any way that truency can go after all those horrible parents for keeping their kids out of school for 6 weeks? There has to be some sort of way to let these parents know that what they did was irresponsible and not worth risking the health and safety of their kids-even for $5000!</p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
		<link>http://reverendmother.org/2007-08-24/important-alert#comment-26190</link>
		<author>Diane</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://reverendmother.org/2007-08-24/important-alert#comment-26190</guid>
		<description>I haven't read it, and I'm not going to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read it, and I&#8217;m not going to.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://reverendmother.org/2007-08-24/important-alert#comment-26189</link>
		<author>Sue</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://reverendmother.org/2007-08-24/important-alert#comment-26189</guid>
		<description>I cannot believe that this program was even created, never mind that it will air on public television. The whole concept is simply horrifying. 

I hope they have some good family counseling set up for these children adn their parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot believe that this program was even created, never mind that it will air on public television. The whole concept is simply horrifying. </p>
<p>I hope they have some good family counseling set up for these children adn their parents.</p>
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		<title>By: Teri</title>
		<link>http://reverendmother.org/2007-08-24/important-alert#comment-26184</link>
		<author>Teri</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://reverendmother.org/2007-08-24/important-alert#comment-26184</guid>
		<description>they may not know what bleach smells like, but it doesn't smell good.  It smells chemical-y.  You know?  
RM, I agree--what adult sees something like that happen and doesn't do anything about it?

I watched the preview and they make it sound innocuous and even fun and kind of cool.  I think it would make a great summer camp, actually.  But at summer camp there are loads of adults (or at least college kids) around to keep everyone safe and to mark bleach bottles and whatnot.

I also read all the comments on one of the NYT articles where people talk about why they would or would not send their kids to this kind of program. After reading hundreds of comments, I see why the CBS box is full.  However, the people in favor were all saying things like "this is like summer camp, but summer camp is really expensive and here they were paying you!" and "that's a standard waiver for any activity these days."  to the first I say: shame on you!  and to the second I say:  no it isn't. Most waivers say that you give permission for your child to be treated by the qualified and licensed medical professional chosen by the leaders or organization if you can't be reached. This one signed away the child's rights to qualified and licensed medical care and claimed it was not the responsibility of CBS to determine the qualifications of medical personnel.  That is most definitely child abuse.  

Okay, I'm going to eat dinner now and try to stop thinking about this again.  It didn't work last time...maybe a root beer float dessert will help...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they may not know what bleach smells like, but it doesn&#8217;t smell good.  It smells chemical-y.  You know?<br />
RM, I agree&#8211;what adult sees something like that happen and doesn&#8217;t do anything about it?</p>
<p>I watched the preview and they make it sound innocuous and even fun and kind of cool.  I think it would make a great summer camp, actually.  But at summer camp there are loads of adults (or at least college kids) around to keep everyone safe and to mark bleach bottles and whatnot.</p>
<p>I also read all the comments on one of the NYT articles where people talk about why they would or would not send their kids to this kind of program. After reading hundreds of comments, I see why the CBS box is full.  However, the people in favor were all saying things like &#8220;this is like summer camp, but summer camp is really expensive and here they were paying you!&#8221; and &#8220;that&#8217;s a standard waiver for any activity these days.&#8221;  to the first I say: shame on you!  and to the second I say:  no it isn&#8217;t. Most waivers say that you give permission for your child to be treated by the qualified and licensed medical professional chosen by the leaders or organization if you can&#8217;t be reached. This one signed away the child&#8217;s rights to qualified and licensed medical care and claimed it was not the responsibility of CBS to determine the qualifications of medical personnel.  That is most definitely child abuse.  </p>
<p>Okay, I&#8217;m going to eat dinner now and try to stop thinking about this again.  It didn&#8217;t work last time&#8230;maybe a root beer float dessert will help&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonah</title>
		<link>http://reverendmother.org/2007-08-24/important-alert#comment-26137</link>
		<author>Jonah</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 12:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://reverendmother.org/2007-08-24/important-alert#comment-26137</guid>
		<description>Part of my spiritual discipline is avoiding all forms of so-called "reality programing".  This is probably the scuzziest most disgusting example, but I can't think of any that are significantly or qualitatively better.  So, no risk of being virtually excommunicated here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of my spiritual discipline is avoiding all forms of so-called &#8220;reality programing&#8221;.  This is probably the scuzziest most disgusting example, but I can&#8217;t think of any that are significantly or qualitatively better.  So, no risk of being virtually excommunicated here.</p>
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		<title>By: Serena</title>
		<link>http://reverendmother.org/2007-08-24/important-alert#comment-26100</link>
		<author>Serena</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 04:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://reverendmother.org/2007-08-24/important-alert#comment-26100</guid>
		<description>This makes me so sick and so mad.  I agree with all of you ... and yes, Teri ... I want to join you.  I'm with PresbyGal ... boycotting CBS... and all the sponsors of this show!  (tried to send email, but it CBS wouldn't take it ... got some kind of "full" message!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes me so sick and so mad.  I agree with all of you &#8230; and yes, Teri &#8230; I want to join you.  I&#8217;m with PresbyGal &#8230; boycotting CBS&#8230; and all the sponsors of this show!  (tried to send email, but it CBS wouldn&#8217;t take it &#8230; got some kind of &#8220;full&#8221; message!)</p>
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		<title>By: reverendmother</title>
		<link>http://reverendmother.org/2007-08-24/important-alert#comment-26095</link>
		<author>reverendmother</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 02:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://reverendmother.org/2007-08-24/important-alert#comment-26095</guid>
		<description>I guess I would never make it as a reality TV producer or cameraperson, because there is no way I could watch a child drink a sip of bleach, then watch three others do it, and not jump up and say, "Stop, that's bad for you."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I would never make it as a reality TV producer or cameraperson, because there is no way I could watch a child drink a sip of bleach, then watch three others do it, and not jump up and say, &#8220;Stop, that&#8217;s bad for you.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ppb</title>
		<link>http://reverendmother.org/2007-08-24/important-alert#comment-26094</link>
		<author>ppb</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 02:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://reverendmother.org/2007-08-24/important-alert#comment-26094</guid>
		<description>I'm wondering what the parents did about school. They would have had to have claimed they were home-schooling in order to take kids out for that long. 

I can see why kids would have found it a really, really cool idea. Heck, it's "build your own fort" on steroids. But I really don't get why the grown-ups weren't saying, "uh. no. come inside and practice your piano. we'll build a fort tomorrow." 

As to the bleach thing. People often put bleach in smaller bottles, because the large ones splash very easily. But they usually mark them. And don't leave them sitting around on TV sets. And kids don't necc. know what bleach smells like. Which is why we don't leave it sitting around. unmarked. on TV sets. where there are no adults.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering what the parents did about school. They would have had to have claimed they were home-schooling in order to take kids out for that long. </p>
<p>I can see why kids would have found it a really, really cool idea. Heck, it&#8217;s &#8220;build your own fort&#8221; on steroids. But I really don&#8217;t get why the grown-ups weren&#8217;t saying, &#8220;uh. no. come inside and practice your piano. we&#8217;ll build a fort tomorrow.&#8221; </p>
<p>As to the bleach thing. People often put bleach in smaller bottles, because the large ones splash very easily. But they usually mark them. And don&#8217;t leave them sitting around on TV sets. And kids don&#8217;t necc. know what bleach smells like. Which is why we don&#8217;t leave it sitting around. unmarked. on TV sets. where there are no adults.</p>
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		<title>By: Teri</title>
		<link>http://reverendmother.org/2007-08-24/important-alert#comment-26084</link>
		<author>Teri</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 01:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://reverendmother.org/2007-08-24/important-alert#comment-26084</guid>
		<description>I read about the bleach incident.  How exactly does bleach get into a soda bottle?  And what kid, smelling it, would then drink it?  I have this horrible vision of that being part of "the show" which, of course, makes me want to puke.

Isn't there some kind of legal issue with basically renting out your kid for 6 weeks in the middle of the school year to thoroughly negligent people?  Again I say, why would you sign that waiver for the possibility of a few thousand dollars?  I think I'd be prosecuting the parents as much as CBS.  Our materialist society disgusts me.

That's all for tonight...stories like this make me all agitated and unable to sleep, and then I say dumb things in church.  It happened last week after I read about Israel deporting refugees from Darfur.  I don't think I can take much more of this world or the people in it.  

anyone wanna come join my cloistered community in northern Italy where there will be ministry enough for all but also amazing food and good friends always available?  And also clean air?  No technology allowed, perhaps?  at least, no TV....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read about the bleach incident.  How exactly does bleach get into a soda bottle?  And what kid, smelling it, would then drink it?  I have this horrible vision of that being part of &#8220;the show&#8221; which, of course, makes me want to puke.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t there some kind of legal issue with basically renting out your kid for 6 weeks in the middle of the school year to thoroughly negligent people?  Again I say, why would you sign that waiver for the possibility of a few thousand dollars?  I think I&#8217;d be prosecuting the parents as much as CBS.  Our materialist society disgusts me.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all for tonight&#8230;stories like this make me all agitated and unable to sleep, and then I say dumb things in church.  It happened last week after I read about Israel deporting refugees from Darfur.  I don&#8217;t think I can take much more of this world or the people in it.  </p>
<p>anyone wanna come join my cloistered community in northern Italy where there will be ministry enough for all but also amazing food and good friends always available?  And also clean air?  No technology allowed, perhaps?  at least, no TV&#8230;.</p>
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